Episode 10: Taking the Next Step Without Knowing the Outcome

In this episode of Courage is Built Here, Justine opens Pathway Five, Do the Work, with a conversation about courage as action rather than perfection. She welcomes Liz Haberberger, business owner, leadership trainer, and coach, to share how stepping into uncertainty shaped her growth as a leader and as a person.

Liz reflects on purchasing the Dale Carnegie territory just weeks before the COVID-19 shutdown and the moment she realized leadership meant choosing a direction even when clarity was unavailable. She shares how resilience, reframing, and changing her mind allowed her to adapt rather than freeze, and how lessons from Ninja Warrior training reinforced the truth that progress comes from practice, not readiness.

Together, Justine and Liz explore how core values anchor courage across roles, from leadership and business ownership to parenting and relationships. They discuss why redefining success is essential, how perfectionism can disconnect us from others, and why courage is built through action, humility, and community. This episode invites listeners to stop waiting for the perfect plan and begin doing the work, one intentional step at a time.

Key Takeaways

• Pathway Five, Do the Work, brings together all five courage pathways into lived, daily action.
• Courage often begins with taking a step forward, not the perfect or fully formed one.
• Uncertainty does not remove responsibility; leadership means choosing action even when the outcome is unknown.
• Changing your mind is a sign of growth, humility, and learning, not inconsistency or failure.
• The belief that you must be the best to be worthy can keep you stuck and disconnected.
• Success is more than outcomes; it includes learning, failing, growing, and showing up fully.
• Resilience involves coping, recovering, and learning from unexpected challenges.
• Authentic leadership adapts across different roles while staying rooted in core values.
• Healthy relationships require self-awareness, accountability, and the courage to give and receive feedback.
• Courage is strengthened through community, not isolation, and grows when people are willing to challenge and support one another.

About the guest

Liz Haberberger works with businesses to create talent management and development strategies that help individuals and organizations grow. As a business owner, leadership trainer, coach, and keynote speaker, Liz brings expertise in leadership, communication, culture, employee engagement, and learning experiences that work. She owns the Dale Carnegie territories in St. Louis and Kansas City and is known for her energetic, authentic approach to growth and leadership.

Connect with Liz

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizhaberberger/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ehaberberger