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Episode 29: Choosing Connection Over Being Right

In this episode of Courage is Built Here, Justine opens Pathway Four, Love Others Well, with a powerful conversation about choosing connection over being right. She invites Sam Riden to share his experiences as a leader and how learning to navigate difficult conversations has shaped both his personal and professional life.

Sam reflects on the challenges of having clear, kind, and direct conversations, especially when change is needed. He shares how patterns like rescuing, avoiding discomfort, and operating from shame can impact relationships and leadership, and what it takes to break those cycles.

Together, Justine and Sam explore how vulnerability builds trust over time and why practicing these conversations in safe environments matters. They discuss the role of feedback as a mirror, the importance of awareness in how we use power and intensity, and how to support others without over-functioning for them.

Throughout the episode, they return to the idea that loving others well is not about avoiding hard things, it is about stepping into them with courage, clarity, and compassion. Choosing connection requires intention, honesty, and a willingness to grow, both individually and together.

Key Takeaways

  • Pathway Four, Love Others Well, includes having honest and challenging conversations with care.
  • Choosing connection over being right requires humility and self-awareness.
  • Avoiding difficult conversations can reinforce unhealthy relational patterns.
  • Vulnerability builds trust over time, even when conversations are uncomfortable.
  • Rescuing others can come from shame and can prevent real growth and accountability.
  • Practicing hard conversations in safe spaces builds confidence and skill.
  • Feedback can act as a mirror, helping you grow in awareness and leadership.
  • Power and intensity in relationships require awareness to be used well.
  • Loving others well means supporting them without over-functioning for them.
  • Courage in relationships often looks like staying present and engaged instead of withdrawing or controlling.


About the guest

Sam Riden is the CEO of TSC, a marketing agency focused on brand merchandise, service, and logistics solutions. After starting his career in sales at the company founded by his mother, he stepped into the CEO role in 2008 and has since grown the organization significantly while maintaining a people-first approach. Sam is known for his transparent, authentic leadership style and commitment to building strong teams and relationships.

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Author:

A Licensed Professional Counselor, Justine Froelker has over 25 years of experience in mental health, personal growth, and professional development. For eleven years, she was certified in Dr. Brené Brown’s work on vulnerability, courage, and empathy. Justine now shares her own curriculum, Courage is Built Here™. This transformative program empowers individuals to live and lead with self-awareness, authenticity, and resilience, building a foundation for courage-centered leadership. In addition to writing her blog since 2013, Justine is an accomplished author of thirteen books—including five Amazon bestsellers—Justine has written across genres, from children’s books to in-depth explorations of infertility, faith, grief, and leadership. She has delivered two TEDx Talks, The Permission of the And and The Donut Effect, which highlight her unique perspective on navigating life’s complexities with grace. Justine is a sought-after speaker who travels nationally and presents virtually to global audiences, delivering keynotes, workshops, retreats, and trainings on topics such as leadership, resilience, mental health, coping with burnout, courageous and curious conversations, and fostering cultures of inclusion and belonging. Justine lives in St. Louis with her husband Chad and their two dogs, Gertie and Winston. You’ll often find her volunteering at Wild Bird Rehabilitation—supporting the medical team and feeding hundreds of tiny, hungry babies during baby bird season. And during butterfly season, her home comes alive with the flutter of wings as she raises hundreds of monarch and swallowtail butterflies.

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