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Episode 45: Stop Believing the Wrong Story About Yourself

In this episode of Courage Is Built Here, Justine welcomes Jenn Whitmer to Pathway Five, Do the Work, for a conversation about identity, resilience, and the courage to challenge the stories we believe about ourselves. Jenn shares how navigating a toxic workplace, experiencing unexpected job loss, and rebuilding her confidence required her to confront shame, embrace curiosity, and choose a healthier narrative.

Together, Justine and Jenn explore why emotions are invitations rather than problems to solve, how curiosity interrupts shame, and why courage is often found in the quiet work of continuing forward one step at a time. They discuss the process of restorying old beliefs, learning from difficult transitions, and recognizing that healing is not a one-time event but an ongoing practice.

Jenn also reflects on finding hope through everyday glimmers, allowing supportive people to speak truth during difficult seasons, and releasing the pressure to overexplain herself. Throughout the conversation, she reminds listeners that courage is not about becoming fearless. It is about believing what is true about yourself even when fear, shame, or old stories try to convince you otherwise.

Key Takeaways

  • Pathway Five, Do the Work, brings together emotional health, values, self-care, authenticity, and courageous relationships into a lifelong practice.
  • Shame often grows when we believe false stories about ourselves instead of challenging them with curiosity.
  • Emotions are invitations to explore what is happening beneath the surface rather than feelings to avoid or suppress.
  • Healing requires intentionally restorying the beliefs that no longer serve you.
  • Courage is often less about dramatic moments and more about faithfully continuing forward one step at a time.
  • Curiosity creates space for growth, clarity, and healthier decisions when life feels uncertain.
  • Difficult endings can become opportunities to discover new purpose and direction.
  • Small moments of hope, beauty, and connection can help sustain you through hard seasons.
  • You do not have to explain or justify every decision in order for it to be the right one.
  • Choosing to believe what is true about yourself, even when fear argues otherwise, is one of the bravest forms of courage.


About the Guest

When work gets tense and teams feel stuck, Jenn Whitmer brings joy that lasts. A keynote and TEDx speaker, author, Enneagram specialist, and podcast host, Jenn equips leaders and teams with the skills to create Joyosity — positive culture with complex people. Through personality, play, and communication tools, leaders know how to build high-performing teams that want to stay.(Oh, and usually laughter too!)

Connect with Jenn:

Website: https://jennwhitmer.com

Joyosity™ Podcast: https://jennwhitmer.com/joyosity-podcast

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jenn_whitmer/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennwhitmer

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jenn_whitmer

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennwhitmerspeaks/

Author:

A Licensed Professional Counselor, Justine Froelker has over 25 years of experience in mental health, personal growth, and professional development. For eleven years, she was certified in Dr. Brené Brown’s work on vulnerability, courage, and empathy. Justine now shares her own curriculum, Courage is Built Here™. This transformative program empowers individuals to live and lead with self-awareness, authenticity, and resilience, building a foundation for courage-centered leadership. In addition to writing her blog since 2013, Justine is an accomplished author of thirteen books—including five Amazon bestsellers—Justine has written across genres, from children’s books to in-depth explorations of infertility, faith, grief, and leadership. She has delivered two TEDx Talks, The Permission of the And and The Donut Effect, which highlight her unique perspective on navigating life’s complexities with grace. Justine is a sought-after speaker who travels nationally and presents virtually to global audiences, delivering keynotes, workshops, retreats, and trainings on topics such as leadership, resilience, mental health, coping with burnout, courageous and curious conversations, and fostering cultures of inclusion and belonging. Justine lives in St. Louis with her husband Chad and their two dogs, Gertie and Winston. You’ll often find her volunteering at Wild Bird Rehabilitation—supporting the medical team and feeding hundreds of tiny, hungry babies during baby bird season. And during butterfly season, her home comes alive with the flutter of wings as she raises hundreds of monarch and swallowtail butterflies.

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